You may use anything you want that I said.You could also add that I was using one plan then another then another then back to the first one. I wasn't always using stops and was placing them too tight. I just didn't have the cocktail napkin: stop, entry, move stop, target, take 1/2 and move stop up, in place....my money management was horrible, with no idea of risk factors. Thanks, you've made me a better trader. Also, thanks for the education section of your website.